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    This website exists today only because courageous, intelligent and daring women
    back in the 1970's decided to break the rules of society. They rallied together
    under the banner of the punk movement. Many of them are no longer with us.

    This page is dedicated to their memories.

    I am sending out e-mail interviews to women who were actively involved in the late
    seventies L.A. punk scene. Everyone gets the same eight questions. No space or
    time limitations. Since I think that women's voices have already been over-edited
    by others, I reserve the right to refuse to edit these women's responses. Instead, I
    intend to publish them in their entirety, raw and unexpurgated.
    LET THE WOMEN SPEAK!  
    Interview with: Rover
    conducted June 2005

    Rover is one of those girls who added life and color to the early punk scene and
    made it so interesting.  She received one of the first wounds (six stitches in the
    scalp) in the "us against them" skirmishes that seem to occur whenever people are
    afraid or intolerant of those who look different from them. It's hard to imagine a
    time and place when having short, crazy-coloured hair could provoke a violent
    reaction from a stranger, but that was what it was like in the 1970's.

    I had no idea that it was Rover who came up with the idea of selling "best friend"
    status for a quarter. After awhile, the idea caught on at the Canterbury and people
    would offer to be your friend for the price of a burger or if you agreed to help
    them out with something.

    Rover's interview captures the youthful innocence that was part of the early punk
    days but which is often overlooked for the more sensational aspects of the scene.
    She remembers the "in crowd" being an "impossible clique to penetrate" and says
    that it was "self-protective, justly so." I only recall that my friends in the scene,
    Rover being one, made up a sort of extended family of like-minded individuals who
    were similarly outcasts from "normal" society.
Gaby & me 1978 Santa Cruz,
CA. I can't remember story.
Me between 1980-82

    1. What was/is your contribution to the punk community?

    I would like to start by stating that if anyone disagrees with me, that's ok. I spent much time drunk
    and have a hit and miss memory.

    My contribution?...I believe I took the first hit in the social war we had waged again the norm. I
    was 16 at the time. I was outside of the Canterbury with my friend Brian (from Fullerton). The
    Simpletones had come to visit me. I was sitting on a parked car. I was facing the apt building.
    Two guys drove past on a motorcycle and the passenger threw a wine bottle into our little crowd
    and it hit me in the head. I didn't know what had happened. I grabbed my head & knocked a
    hunk of glass out and it fell to the ground. I saw that it was green glass. Then a rush of pain and
    a river of blood and I stumbled forward and leaned against the Canterbury for support. The guys
    were stunned and couldn't move. Natalie looked out the window assessed the situation
    instantaneously. She yelled for someone to help me. I'm sure she yelled for Gerber. The two of
    them ran down at least two flights of stairs and out of the building to help me before any of the
    guys even came to their senses. Girls... you have to love them. I was dazed and in a state of
    confusion. They grabbed me and helped me walk. Gerber & Natalie took me to Lorna & Belinda's
    apartment. Darby was there. I remember he was pissed and confused and couldn't understand
    this violence. The girls called 911 and wrapped my head in a towel. The paramedics arrived and
    bandaged my head. They joked about my hair color, saying they couldn't tell what was hair color
    and what was blood. My friends were told that I needed stitches. Geza, Rick & a girl (I can't
    remember what girl, but I'm sure she was a good friend, maybe Kira) took me to General
    Hospital. It was a long night, but I got 6 stitches and a battle story. Thanks to the wonderful
    people that came to my aid and made the hospital visit fun. It would have been a much longer
    wait if Geza hadn't pestered the lady at the desk into taking me quickly.  I was dazed for months
    after that.  If I wasn't the first hit, then I guess I was a shot of energy to all those around me.

    I was the first roadie for the Go-Go's. I read Seal's interview and she claims that she was, so, I
    guess we'll have to let Janie, B & Margot settle that one. (Ed. note: Seal stated that she was
    a roadie for the Go-Go's, not the first. See her archived interview for more.)

    I would also like to lay claim to being everyone's best friend. There was a group going to SF from
    LA. I could go if I could help pay for gas. I was like 16 and didn't have a job or money. I came up
    with a fund-raising idea. I decided to sell the option to be my best friend. Being an extreme
    extrovert and a teenager, I didn't understand that most people didn't have 20 or 30 best friends.
    I told everyone that I would be their best friend for a quarter. I made $13. Spazz was my best
    customer. He got all of the details first. I would be available as a shoulder to cry on, a listening
    ear, etc. He thought it was a good investment and gave me a dollar. I haven't seen Spazz in
    decades, but he is still my best friend. If you're out there Spazz, your best friend lives in Las
    Vegas.

    2. Which artist, band concert and/or show had the most impact on your life?

    It was without a doubt in my mind the Dickies @ the Whiskey, Dec ?, 1977.  I walked into my very
    first show and knew I had finally found my home planet!!!! Remember the Twilight Zone episode
    with Elly May Clampett? She was laying in a hospital bed with bandages covering her face.
    Consumed with self hatred & confusion because she was born so ugly that she couldn't fit in with
    society. She was in the last ditch effort to reconstruct her face so that she could live a normal
    life. The bandages came off and all had failed. Then it's revealed that she is really beautiful in a
    world of ugly and has to go live in a community with others like herself.  That's exactly how I felt
    when I walked into the Whiskey that night. Everyone was pale and it was ok. I had been teased
    so badly in school because I lived in So Cal and was as white as could be. Kids used to sing
    "Blinded by the white," a take off of the lame 70s hit Blinded by the Light (I'm not sure if that's the
    real title, but that's the song). It wasn't long before I met a guy named Jay who lived up Cherokee
    from the Canterbury and I moved in with him. I didn't know anyone but I didn't care, I was with my
    own kind. Mary Rat told me later that she remembered seeing me walking around and wondered
    who I was. Jay & I dared all and tried to go to a party at Lorna & Belinda's. We knocked and
    someone opened the door. Belinda told us we couldn't come in so we left. Later, I met Nicky Beat
    at a show or something. He was really nice to me. He introduced me to Alice Bag. It was the 2 of
    them that welcomed me to the planet and made me one of their own. Nicky Beat's birthday is one
    day after mine. I think that's cool. Secret's out, I'm really a big geek.

    3. What was the role of women in the early punk scene?

    I think we were the front line in a war to be ourselves. Not just the girls, but for the guys as well.  
    People didn't know what to think when they saw us. People have an innate desire to know about
    their world and they couldn't label us & file us away. It made them angry.

    I remember being on Hollywood Blvd, it was the summer of '78. I was with Linda & Gabby Gomez.
    Outside of Woolworths, we were stopped by two marines. They were on a 3 day pass from Camp
    Pendleton in Oceanside, CA. They told us this. They peppered us with questions trying to
    understand us. We were so far outside their reality that one of them became so angry that he
    said he was going to beat the shit out of me. ME! Linda & Gabby were big girls with some meat &
    muscles on their bone. I was a walking pencil. Linda thought quickly and declared that she would
    contact Camp Pendleton and his identity would be revealed and everyone would know that he
    beat up a little girl. It worked, 'cause this idiot walked away yelling that I was glad I wasn't his
    sister. Fuckin' right I was glad I wasn't his sister.

    I remember hating the label "Punk Rock".  I know now that it's hard to talk or write about
    something if it doesn't have a name. Remember the artist formerly known as Prince?

    4. What is the legacy of punk in your life?

    It pulses through my veins. It is my life's blood. The whole experience taught me that I can only
    be myself. I was born outside of the norm, found my comrades in a group that lived outside of
    the norm, and continue to choose a path outside of the norm.

    5. What are you listening to now?

    I'm sort of in a rut. I listen to Bowie, Pistols, Damned, Germs. I lost my singles so there's no more
    Avengers or Bags or... I'm happiest when I listen to Tom Waits.  I make my kids smile when I bop
    around to Devo. I still blare music when I drive by myself.

    6. Do you have any funny or interesting stories to share?

    I would if I could remember them. Only kidding. I would love to tell a story that includes Alice &
    Nicky. It might only be interesting to me, but here goes: I was standing on the black top in front of
    the Starwood. I was talking to Alice & Nicky. Behind my back, a VW Bug was trying to get out to
    Santa Monica Blvd from a little parking lot. The guy drove so close to me that the little running
    board rubbed against my bare leg. I jumped and yelled. Alice saw that this asshole had run his
    car into me. She yelled for him to stop. He didn't. He just kept going forward slowly. She got mad
    and kicked the shit out of the VW with her SPIKED HEELS. Nicky saw what she was doing and
    started kicking the car also. The driver got away, but not without some good sized dents to
    repair. THANKS ALICE & Nicky!!!!

    Sheila!! I tell stories to my kids about Sheila. She talked me into going to that big Catholic church
    for the Pope's funeral. The guy had only been Pope for about a month before he died. I think
    there were four of us who went. We didn't get to even set foot into the church. The priest there
    cut us off before we even reached the steps and told us we had to leave. We were amazed at
    first, but found it quite amusing that we were so weird that we couldn't go to church.  I'd like to
    find out where Sheila lives.

    7. Are there any punk women from the early scene that you feel have not been been
    adequately recognized?

    I'm not in touch enough to know whose gotten some PR, but I would love to mention some girls
    that I adored. I may sound like a huge dyke but I don't care, I loved these girls.

    Gabby Gomez who lived at the Masque with me in the Summer of '78.

    This may not go over well, but I don't give a shit: Thanks a million Brendan for giving me a place
    to live when I would have been homeless at 16.

    Shawn Kerry, she probably doesn't even remember me.  Mary Rat, TRUDIE!!! Helen (one "L" or
    two sorry if it's misspelled), I never met Trixie, but Trudie called Trixie in NY and told Trixie that
    she & I should know each other and handed me the phone. So for our long distance friendship,
    Trixie, Dinky & Michelle (1 "L" or 2?), June & Wendy, Natalie & Gerber, Alice & Pat, Joni (thanks
    for sharing your smuggled into the US  supply of crazy colour with me.) Vanilla Shake from
    Arthur J & the Gold Cups. Connie, 'cause she and I were Go-Go roadies even if I was the only
    one that worked, sorry Connie! Moral support & friendship are more valuable and you gave me
    that. Barbara & Dorothy James!!!!! Janie, Belinda, Lorna & Margot. Kira. Mary (aka Dinah),
    Mary's Mom & I think your grandma or aunt, but I think it was your grandma. They were so nice
    to us. Tracy, her mom makes the best shepard's pie. Sandy, who was with me when we were
    kidnapped by those black guys in Long Beach (read about it FlipSide), Melissa (How's Joya?)/
    The fabulous girls from SF: Jeri, Sally Mutant (thanks for letting me stay at your loft).

    I have to take this time to say: Lauren, I am truly sorry that I trashed your apt at the Canterbury.
    You didn't deserve that. I was an asshole. I can only claim mob mentality, but I won't say who was
    there, because I am at fault. Shannon had every right to hate me for that.  

    I would also like to thank all of the mom's of all of my friends, both guys & girls. Thank you for all
    that you went through to bring my friends into this world. Your children were family to me when I
    had nobody. I am sorry to anyone I forgot. You meant the world to me at the time and probably
    do now. I have shit for brains. All that alcohol killed many of my brain cells.

    8. What is something we should know about you that we probably don't know?

    My real name is Rose. I got my nickname from my best friend, Jackie. We were in junior high
    school. She said I couldn't stay in one place, but was happiest roving around.  

    I resell clothes on eBay. Cozy_Rosy is my id.

    I have a wonderful husband (the gods were good to me.)

    Now, hold on to your seats.... I have ten kids.
Cover girl Rover, gracing the front of a 1980
Warner Bros. "new wave" compilation
record.