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Interviews

    This website exists today only because courageous, intelligent and daring women back in the 1970's
    decided to break the rules of society. They rallied together under the banner of the punk movement.
    Many of them are no longer with us.

    This page is dedicated to their memories.

    Because many people have written to me to suggest other people to interview and wondering how I
    choose the women I interview, I want to explain my criteria for inclusion in this section. They are:

    1) You must be a woman - or have been one at the time.

    2) You must have been active in the L.A. punk scene before 1980. By active, I mean actively participating
    by frequently going to shows, taking photos, writing, being in a band, supporting the scene in some way.
    This section was never intended to be a "celebrities only" section. It's an oral history of the early scene
    from the female perspective.

    3) You must be able to send me your answers via email. I don't talk on the phone.  I have previously sent
    interviews via email to women who would seem to be obvious choices for inclusion but they have either
    not responded or have told me they are working on it and then they forget about it (you know who you
    are). So if you know someone who belongs in this interview series, remind them to finish up their
    interviews and send them in.

    Everyone gets the same eight questions. No space or time limitations. Since I think that women's voices
    have already been over-edited by others, I reserve the right to refuse to edit these women's responses.
    Instead, I intend to publish them in their entirety, raw and unexpurgated.

    LET THE WOMEN SPEAK!
    Interview with: Tracy Lea
    conducted May 2006
                   
    I first met Tracy while I was playing with Castration Squad back in the early 1980’s.
    Shannon Wilhelm introduced us. I remember being impressed by her beauty and
    youth. She had shorn her hair into an extreme “boy-cut” that contrasted nicely with
    her sweet looks. Around this same time, she was also playing rhythm guitar with the
    band Redd Kross and you can hear her riffage on the garage/bubblegum/punk
    classic “Born Innocent.” Tracy was one of those people who brought fun and
    enthusiasm to a project.  She had and still has a great and rather dark sense of
    humor.

    In 1984, Tracy was immortalized on Super 8 film by Dave Markey in the star-making
    role of gang leader Tanya Hearst in Desperate Teenage Lovedolls, which is now
    available on DVD from We Got Power Films.

    I recently had the pleasure of playing with her again in preparation for the
    Castration Squad reunion last year. I discovered a new side of Tracy. I had no idea
    that Tracy had developed into a talented songwriter and had also written and
    produced her own short film based on the Castration Squad song, “Piece of Me.”

    Her riffs are cool, her lyrics are clever and she’s one tough bitch.
    I give you Miss Tracy Lea-Marshak-Nash.


    1. What was/is your contribution to the punk community?

    I played in the Castration Squad and Redd Kross. I had a short stint in the Cambridge
    Apostles, but left for a much needed vacation in Tarzana. I almost played in Circle One,
    but I don’t think John Macias wanted a girl in the band; not this girl anyway. I practiced a
    couple of times with Cheap as Dirt, Tough as Nails (it might be the other way around);
    anyway the other guitar player got jealous because he knew I’d get more attention. That’s
    the kind of thing guys really get jealous over. Stevo asked me to do the intro with him on
    The Vandals’ song “Slap of Love”, which I mention because I didn’t push to get credit on the
    album and should have. I landed the highly coveted role of Tanya Hearst in Dave Markey’s
    “Desperate Teenage Lovedolls”, which is an underground punk rock classic and available
    on dvd. He brought me back for a role in “Lovedolls Superstar” in which I got to share a few
    scenes with Snickers from the Simpletones; an old friend, very much missed.

    2. Which artist, band concert and/or show had the most impact on your life?

    The first time I saw the Runaways at the Whiskey it was crazy; loud and amazing and I loved
    it. I was young and just going to a nightclub was exciting and intoxicating; literally. It was
    always a big thing when bands from England would play; 999, The Jam, The Buzzcocks,
    Magazine, Siouxsie - those were great shows. I know we didn’t need the English, but they
    were fun. I saw the Dead Boys play at the other Masque and that was cool; better yet was
    riding in a car with Stiv Bators to get alcohol. The dream of all the 15-year-old girls I knew.

    3. What was the role of women in the early punk scene?

    Early on I recognized that boys seemed to have more fun (like the Naughty Women) so
    hanging out in the punk scene was the perfect setting to play an instrument, get tattooed,
    and do tequila shots; just like the guys. I think women in those early days set the bar high
    - I don’t remember a lot of niceties; you really had to earn your friendship with them.  I didn’t
    see a lot of difference between men and women as far as playing in bands went; that was
    the great leveler. Nobody carried my stuff (unless they wanted to be on the list) and
    ultimately good or bad, I had to get up and play. I saw women play just as hard and just as
    wild as the guys did. It gave me the feeling like I could do whatever I wanted to. I found that
    to be a double edged sword back then, but it serves me well now.

    4. What is the legacy of punk in your life?

    I think that after playing in a band and being in the punk scene, I don’t back down in a lot of
    areas of my life. I’m more willing to take risks; I figure if I survived that scene why not take a
    few chances. I got exposed to a lot of offbeat movies and art that I’m still into; unfortunately I
    don’t own a copy of Kiss Meets the Phantom of the Park, but my birthday is coming up so
    maybe I’ll get lucky. My son said he wants to give me a dirty skeleton, which I said would
    make me very happy. He’s turning out to be my finest punk legacy. My husband Brent and I
    are very proud of him.

    5. What are you listening to now?

    I’ll go to my grave listening to Bowie. I still listen to the Stooges, T Rex, and Mott the Hoople.
    I like the Upper Crust, the River City Rebels. I love old glam music; and of course Jonesy.
    There’s a Japanese band I really like called L’arc-en-Ciel. Paul Williams.

    6. Do you have any funny or interesting stories to share?

    Let me think…who can I write about who won’t be offended? Fuck it. Okay, there was this
    time Redd Kross played up in San Francisco and these kids were in the alley behind our
    room making a lot of noise so we got the idea to heat up pennies with a lighter and toss
    them out the window for the happy children to buy candy with - unfortunately their treat
    money went to burn ointment and gauze. Actually they got smart and picked them up with
    scraps from the alley. Then on the way back to L.A. we were drinking Southern Comfort and
    decided to take a side trip to visit Charles Manson.  We drove up to some prison (I’m not
    sure if it was his prison) and saw these signs that read “turn back if you have weapons or
    alcohol” so we left. Then there was another time we went to S. F. with Craig Lee, who I think
    was managing our band at the time. A couple of band mates and I indulged in a bit of
    hallucinogen before we left and kept it a secret. So there we were, way up Interstate 5, I’m
    driving and someone suggests stopping at McDonalds. Craig was a funny guy and he gets
    the idea to start saying “Mc” before all his words; like “Hi McTracy” and “Are we Mcthere yet?”
    I lost it. I was severely damaged by that fast food visit; but in a good way. Then someone had
    to put on Rush.

    When I joined the Castration Squad, Rick Van Santen was our manager. He got us a show
    at the Circus Disco by playing them a tape of The Runaways and saying it was us. Someone
    else said he played a tape of Penetration - either one is okay with me. So we show up and
    play maybe five songs, which I think was the extent of our set and they were mad. HA HA!
    Then there was the show at the Seventh Veil. They didn’t like us there either and decided
    not to pay us. I have a vague memory of Shannon pushing the doors open and letting in a
    flood of people who didn’t pay. We were never asked back to either venue. Actually I can’t
    think of any club we played twice. Then there was the time we opened for X at a club in
    Berkeley and were pelted with pennies. At least we got paid!

    Anyway, I have so many funny stories here’s my condensed version:

    Tar and his Clashmobile, Bruce and his reptiles, kegs in Huntington Beach, dine and dash
    at Love’s, Mickey walking on cars, partying in the Hollywood cemetery, holding Rick Wilder’s
    leather jacket for ransom, any night of the week with Alberto, being on New Wave theatre,
    Andy and her yellow Rabbit, Snickers and his VW bug, stealing coins from the fountain near
    the Hong Kong Café, stealing my wig for “Lovedolls Superstar”, any time spent with Dave
    Markey, stopping in Oakland with Stevo and Human for fried chicken, seeing Jayne County
    at the Starwood, being 86’d from the Whiskey, Tiffany and me in Vegas at the breakfast
    buffet - okay I have to stop. See Alice, don’t get me going.

    7. Are there any punk women from the early scene that you feel have not been
    adequately recognized?

    Janet Housden. She played drums in Redd Kross when I was in the band and now she plays
    in The Shakes. She rocks.  Texacala Jones. Karla Maddog - track her down. Mary Rat.  
    Annette Zilinskas; I’d love to see her; Maggie Ehrig from Twisted Roots; Amy Wichman; she
    played in Kaos and the Jeff Dahl Band; a fun girl from the Valley who saved my life; Julie from
    Sin 34. Gerber. Andy and Jill. Litha Dosage.

    8. What is something we should know about you that we probably don’t know?

    I love being interviewed and was wondering when you were going to ask me ; )  
Red Cross: Jeff and Steve McDonald,
Janet Housden and Tracy Lea.
Alice and Tracy in uniform for
a Castration Squad show.
Tracy as super cool bad girl
Tanya Hearst in stills from
Dave Markey's "Desperate Teenage Lovedolls."
Courtesy of We Got Power Films.
Tracy returns to the screen in
Dave Markey's "Lovedolls Superstar."
Courtesy of We Got Power Films.
Tracy Lea (bottom right) with
pals Stephanie and Alberto.
Tracy, Lisa and Dinah at the
Castration Squad reunion show, 2005.
Photo by Greg and Kim McWhorter.
Tanya Hearst meets her violent end in the
cult classic, "
Desperate Teenage Lovedolls".